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white butttaaahh
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 Posted: Wednesday May 18th, 2005 5:04 Post subject: Best VST Drum/Phrase Sampler to program patterns on the fly? |
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I'd appreciate advice from any of you fine upstanding buzz producers regarding VST samplers.
1. I'm looking for a sampler thats good for DRUMS and phrases. Not the craziest wildest sampler of the century...basically so I can program drum patterns on the fly. I know that many of you tend towards trackers and that is admirable and understandable, so please do not let this turn into a tracker vs. vst discussion. I just want to hit the keys on my keyboard instead of program notes in.
2. Does anyone else have the problem of...for instance...you're recording live midi in buzz and you screw up, and want to go back and clear what you did - but it's annoying because you have to either delete or clear a whole pattern? Someone awhile ago told me there was some application (I think by pdoom) that automates this task. Can anyone lend insight to this?
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k-bird
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| Posted: Wednesday May 18th, 2005 6:17 Post subject: Re: Best VST Drum/Phrase Sampler to program patterns on the |
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| white butttaaahh wrote: | | 1. I'm looking for a sampler thats good for DRUMS and phrases. Not the craziest wildest sampler of the century...basically so I can program drum patterns on the fly. I know that many of you tend towards trackers and that is admirable and understandable, so please do not let this turn into a tracker vs. vst discussion. I just want to hit the keys on my keyboard instead of program notes in. |
I take it you've already tried SampleGrid. The old version (not Sgrid2 at the moment) can let you do this no problem from the MIDI Setup menu and has note offset/velocity if you need it.
If that's truly not your cup of tea, i think Computer Music does a VSTi drum sampler.
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mute
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| Posted: Wednesday May 18th, 2005 6:24 Post subject: Re: Best VST Drum/Phrase Sampler to program patterns on the |
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| white butttaaahh wrote: |
1. I'm looking for a sampler thats good for DRUMS and phrases. Not the
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SampleGrid by btdsys (not a tracker) is good for this. right click it and you can setup samples per midi note. don't use the version 2 beta floating around this msgboard for it yet. other than that.. VSTi -- native instruments battery is ace.
Not sure I get your question on phrase samplers though .. phrase samplers are live/rec/loop/pause/etc samplers, like the lil basic 10sec one built into my kaosspad, or like the one in a Dr. Boss. I've never looked at software for phrase sampling really, though i've done similar things with Soundcard in->CnG recorder - which has assignable midi note trigs for rec on/off and then that sample slot can be assigned in another tracker or sampler on another midi note.
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2. Does anyone else have the problem of...for instance...you're recording live midi in buzz and you screw up, and want to go back and clear what you did - but it's annoying because you have to either delete or clear a whole pattern?
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This is an annoyance in every host really.. Generally, when I'm recording midi parts (in buzz or anything else) I'll break them down by creating/splitting a bunch of patterns before recording and then play the part on my kb several times over - then i'll go back to see which was the best 'take'. Then if it's nessicary I'll adjust or remove any of the note delays or timing corrections. Finally, I'll delete the extra patterns.
I dont get too frustrated by this kind of thing much anymore because i've found this method of several takes in one pass to work for me.
I'd say at least 50% of the stuff in songs I work on are input through MIDI. I've become very comfortable with it and cant live without it  I dont do much drum programming with midi though. I did for awhile using my akai xr10 (which has big pads that are fun to hit) and during that time I usually used SampleGrid. Actually, I think that feature came from a request I made to Btdsys and wanting to use my xr10 for additional live drum programming/playing.
BTW, Polac VST has a "overwrite" mode for recording midi. You might want to check that out. That way you can just keep the record/looped region going and overwriting it until you've written it to your expectations (loop region, record, listen, overwrite, listen, overwrite, etc. turn off record when done). Quantization might help you out too, or it might mess with you. Try turning midi quant. on too.
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Someone awhile ago told me there was some application (I think by pdoom) that automates this task. Can anyone lend insight to this?
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hrmn.. never heard of this, can't imagine what it does/would do. 
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Xenobioz
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You could delete the whole pattern and just make new one.
I used to make the change the pattern lenght to 1 and then back to delete everything exept the first row, but the method I mentioned above is even better.
I didnt know about polacs overwrite feature, sounds great 
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nool
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ace post, thx mute 
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*shamlessly advertizes umw midi record overwrite*
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