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Retrofox Choir Girl
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 51 Location: Denmark, Copenhagen
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Posted: Monday March 22nd, 2010 20:29 Post subject: Yeeey! :) |
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With the more recent buzz builds, i've been having problems with midi controlling & keyjazzing several of my vsti's (with loader 1.1.9.9.4), but the latest b5 seems to have cured all that! I can even record in PXP now!
Thanks a million polac & keep up the good work!  _________________ Retrofox aka. Shr0om - efnet #buzz |
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commadore65 Bishop

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 260 Location: Pembrokeshire, Wales
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Posted: Wednesday March 24th, 2010 13:56 Post subject: |
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I finally got the polac asio working after installing this version. Midi out is working like a dream, and the pxp midi record is amazing. Good work!  _________________ http://www.myspace.com/commadore65 |
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groovelastig Cardinal

Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 776 Location: duesseldorf, germany
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mute Angel
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 3388
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Posted: Wednesday March 24th, 2010 20:16 Post subject: |
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| groovelastig wrote: |
ps. a resize option for video would be neat (25% 50% 100% or something) |
you can drag/resize the window _________________ http://www.lazytrap.com/ |
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polac Priest
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 155
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Posted: Wednesday March 24th, 2010 20:17 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ps. a resize option for video would be neat (25% 50% 100% or something) |
Yes this might be useful too. Btw you can resize via leftclick + drag(bottom+rightmost area), "keep original size" must be disabled then. |
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groovelastig Cardinal

Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 776 Location: duesseldorf, germany
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lindon Priest

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Retrofox Choir Girl
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 51 Location: Denmark, Copenhagen
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Posted: Thursday March 25th, 2010 20:29 Post subject: Re: new pvst beta (updated 2010-03-16) |
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| polac wrote: | http://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/beta/pvst_v1.1.10b5.zip
b5:
- added mediavst.dll to use directshow decoders(alpha), e.g. this can be used as a videoplayer vst
- the sse option for oversampler now as global setting
- bugfixes
b4:
- option to enable/disable the new multi-io feature
- bugfix midibus
b3:
- rpn/nrpn support
- sysex(in and out), out requires the new asio waveout, receive sysex via midi-in machine
- record to wavetable
- oversampling engine(gets active by holding ctrl while loading or via preferences)
- find preset dialog
- using the new multi-io features of buzz
- new asio in/out machines also with new multi-io
- pxp recording(crippled)
- bugfixes and other stuff i'm too lazy to write down
I'm still testing here with build 1188 as i had some probs with the latest net framework(freezes my winxp on startup it seems, i'll have to investigate). |
Hi!
First of all, big up's for continuing the work on the loaders!! I'm ever grateful
The latest beta has solved many of my problems, where some of my vsti's couldn't be controlled via my midi board anymore.
And the new additions in the loader are awsome:)
I found a small bug however that i thought i should report (Running buzz build 1207 btw)
If i add couple of vsti's, controlling them via my midi board works fine (Master keyb view & midi filtering enabled). However, if i save the bmx and reload it, i can't control any of the vsti's in machine view.
I discovered, that if i enter the pattern view of any vsti and try to play, it seems to activate the midi again, and the vsti can now be played again in any view.
This goes for all the vsti's it seems, so i need to enter the pattern of each one and hit a note on my controller to activate it again.
Keep up the good work! _________________ Retrofox aka. Shr0om - efnet #buzz |
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Retrofox Choir Girl
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 51 Location: Denmark, Copenhagen
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Posted: Thursday March 25th, 2010 21:38 Post subject: Re: new pvst beta (updated 2010-03-16) |
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| Retrofox wrote: | | polac wrote: | http://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/beta/pvst_v1.1.10b5.zip
b5:
- added mediavst.dll to use directshow decoders(alpha), e.g. this can be used as a videoplayer vst
- the sse option for oversampler now as global setting
- bugfixes
b4:
- option to enable/disable the new multi-io feature
- bugfix midibus
b3:
- rpn/nrpn support
- sysex(in and out), out requires the new asio waveout, receive sysex via midi-in machine
- record to wavetable
- oversampling engine(gets active by holding ctrl while loading or via preferences)
- find preset dialog
- using the new multi-io features of buzz
- new asio in/out machines also with new multi-io
- pxp recording(crippled)
- bugfixes and other stuff i'm too lazy to write down
I'm still testing here with build 1188 as i had some probs with the latest net framework(freezes my winxp on startup it seems, i'll have to investigate). |
Hi!
First of all, big up's for continuing the work on the loaders!! I'm ever grateful
The latest beta has solved many of my problems, where some of my vsti's couldn't be controlled via my midi board anymore.
And the new additions in the loader are awsome:)
I found a small bug however that i thought i should report (Running buzz build 1207 btw)
If i add couple of vsti's, controlling them via my midi board works fine (Master keyb view & midi filtering enabled). However, if i save the bmx and reload it, i can't control any of the vsti's in machine view.
I discovered, that if i enter the pattern view of any vsti and try to play, it seems to activate the midi again, and the vsti can now be played again in any view.
This goes for all the vsti's it seems, so i need to enter the pattern of each one and hit a note on my controller to activate it again.
Keep up the good work! |
UPDATE: Oskari told me this looks like a PXP bug, not polac! _________________ Retrofox aka. Shr0om - efnet #buzz |
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oskari yeah, seriously.
Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 405
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Posted: Thursday March 25th, 2010 21:38 Post subject: |
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| Fixed in 1208. |
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Retrofox Choir Girl
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 51 Location: Denmark, Copenhagen
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Posted: Thursday March 25th, 2010 21:39 Post subject: |
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| oskari wrote: | | Fixed in 1208. |
WOW.. Now, that was FAST!!
Thnx Oskari! _________________ Retrofox aka. Shr0om - efnet #buzz |
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etruscan Archbishop

Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 706 Location: Wollongong, Australia
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Posted: Friday March 26th, 2010 1:17 Post subject: |
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Glad that's fixed - I wasn't sure if it was Buzz, me, or my hardware synth. Thanks  |
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polac Priest
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 155
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Posted: Friday March 26th, 2010 20:47 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | 3. Kontakt 4 Player crashes after instrument is loaded. Works very slowly generally. |
I was able to reproduce this crash in other hosts here too(Renoise/Reaper/Chainer). Like Ekral said it happens in Buzz if you have the "stop process" option enabled(or if you try to load an instrument while kontakt is in muted state). Renoise has a similar feature called "auto suspend", if this is enabled Kontakt crashes too on instrument load. I would say it's a bug in Kontakt.
I did add an option called "restart if editor is visible", which fixes this issue. |
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wde Choir Girl
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 56
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Posted: Saturday March 27th, 2010 12:22 Post subject: |
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Happy to report that Kontakt 3 and 4 are working here too!
Interesting bit is that although Kontakt 3 and ME80 crashes Buzz if used in same project, Kontak 4 and ME80 don't crash Buzz. Which is fine since I can use K3 lib in K4. (Edit: or not, since I need to buy the kontakt 4 upgrade. Nice one NI
Pro-53 still refuses to load.
And btw your mediavst is amazing! |
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casperghost Altar Boy
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 44 Location: Boston, USA
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Posted: Sunday March 28th, 2010 16:52 Post subject: |
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| Can someone clue me in real quick how to use the new record to wavetable feature? |
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magmavander Monk

Joined: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 455 Location: France
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Posted: Sunday March 28th, 2010 17:41 Post subject: |
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Seems to work ok here. I didnt have any particular problem unless two or three VST that asked for registering again.
Thanks Polac!!!
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Domtron Pope

Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 1080 Location: why?
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Posted: Monday March 29th, 2010 4:50 Post subject: |
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bypass isn't working for me with v. b6.
.net 4 installed.
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machinehead Bishop
Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 313
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Posted: Monday March 29th, 2010 12:13 Post subject: |
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| casperghost wrote: | | Can someone clue me in real quick how to use the new record to wavetable feature? |
Open up vst look for view next to learn go down to record to wave table select which type of recording you want start recording  |
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Jono-60 Bishop
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 270
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Posted: Monday March 29th, 2010 15:33 Post subject: |
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| I can't seem to transpose the octave for keyjazzing. I understand the keyb shortcuts are * and /. Does it only work on the numpad as I am now using a laptop? |
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ags Archbishop
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 668 Location: UK
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mcbpete Monk

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 408 Location: UK
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Posted: Monday March 29th, 2010 16:48 Post subject: |
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Yeah you'll have to hit FN and the * and / that are found near the right section of the board (the keys labels are usually marked in a blue colour)
EDIT: ags got there first ! |
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pbhs Choir Girl

Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 75 Location: Venezia - Italy
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Posted: Monday March 29th, 2010 17:36 Post subject: |
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Everything working incredibly well.
1000 and more "Thanks to you" Polac. _________________ You can find my music at http://www.buzzmusic.org.ua/ - my nick is BHS
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nata Choir Girl

Joined: 23 Sep 2009 Posts: 65
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Posted: Monday March 29th, 2010 20:06 Post subject: |
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Any chance for an automatic portamento command (Define amount of glide which is repeated automatically until the given not is reached)? This would prevent of typing the same values into patterns over & over. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/nata8580 |
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polac Priest
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Posted: Thursday April 1st, 2010 20:31 Post subject: |
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| Domtron wrote: | bypass isn't working for me with v. b6.
.net 4 installed.
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Yes it seems the <thru> command in the seq view is broken, don't know if this is fixable, if a machine uses the new multi-io stuff it doesn't get notified about the thru state unless I'm missing something.
The pvst bypass should work, but I changed it to a "soft bypass" which means the plugin still gets processed silently. This is more safe instead of doing a hard bypass. Perhaps I should add an option to switch. |
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synthphase Monk
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 474 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Monday April 12th, 2010 5:22 Post subject: PVST, Buzz or a Typical MIDI problem? |
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When I use Peerchord to send notes to my external MIDI gear via PVST, I get a strange occurrence sometimes.
Some of the notes, especially > 16th notes, get stuck in some kind of "memory" where they can continue to play in sequence even after Buzz is stopped. F12'ing on/off from Buzz doesn't work, neither does "all notes off" from PVST. Even closing Buzz altogether doesn't seem to stop the endless backlog of notes from continuing to play and this might point to a MIDI problem or problem with my soundcard itself, but maybe it's also how Buzz or PVST buffers the events or something.
Anyone? |
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mute Angel
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Posted: Monday April 12th, 2010 15:06 Post subject: |
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I dont think all notes off sends midi note off out.
Sounds like you have open notes on your synth where you're using sustain (not turning off when stopped) and a long release (multiplying same note as several 16 notes play) and that you're not sending note offs. _________________ http://www.lazytrap.com/ |
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synthphase Monk
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Posted: Monday April 12th, 2010 19:32 Post subject: |
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| No, it's not sustain or stuck notes. Even with no release and sustain, notes are still being sent. I should have mentioned before, but the midi event light on my Microwave XT (the unit in question) is still flashing when I stop Buzz or close it, so I know that it's still receiving midi from memory somewhere! |
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mortal1 Archbishop
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Posted: Monday April 12th, 2010 20:44 Post subject: |
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| synthphase wrote: | | No, it's not sustain or stuck notes. Even with no release and sustain, notes are still being sent. I should have mentioned before, but the midi event light on my Microwave XT (the unit in question) is still flashing when I stop Buzz or close it, so I know that it's still receiving midi from memory somewhere! |
Feedback loop? midi thru enabled on your outboard passing notes back in to a u-turn by midiyoke oslt? |
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machinehead Bishop
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Posted: Tuesday April 13th, 2010 14:57 Post subject: |
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| Would it be possible to be able to save the auto learn midi cc as a loadable file instead of having to re-learn all the assignments again for different machines |
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mute Angel
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Posted: Tuesday April 13th, 2010 18:14 Post subject: |
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| machinehead wrote: | | Would it be possible to be able to save the auto learn midi cc as a loadable file instead of having to re-learn all the assignments again for different machines |
Save as Default under the Learn menu will save your MIDI CC bindings as default for that VST/VSTi instrument _________________ http://www.lazytrap.com/ |
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machinehead Bishop
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Posted: Tuesday April 13th, 2010 21:52 Post subject: |
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| I have done that but if move from one machine to another i have to rebind all the controllers to the new machine. If i was able to save a template it would be a snap rather than a chore. |
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mute Angel
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Posted: Wednesday April 14th, 2010 12:44 Post subject: |
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look in your PVST Data directory, find the VST's directory, copy its config file and while you're in there.. any presets or favorites you might have made/want.
optionally you can just copy the entire directory over and then use 'clean up' from pvst to get rid of anything you dont have on that specific computer.
everytime i install a new os or move to a new computer, i always take a copy of my pvst data directory with me. that way i have all my presets, favorites and default settings.
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C:\Users\Aaron\Documents\PVST Data\ _________________ http://www.lazytrap.com/ |
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IX Cardinal

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Posted: Saturday April 17th, 2010 15:23 Post subject: |
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I'm getting stuck notes keyjazzing in Blok VST's patch editor. I'm guessing that there's a conflict with PVST's own keyjazz causing note-offs to go missing. I tried Preferences->Disable Keyjazzing figuring it would just prevent PVST's own keyjazz but it stops Blok's built in keyjazz too. Preferences->Route PC Keyboard Input To VST doesn't seem to make any difference to the problem. This is with 1.1.10b6. It didn't seem to happen as much with PVST 1.1.9.9.4.
Is there a way to fix this? If I had to choose between keyjazz in the patch editor or in the normal gui then keyjazz in the editor is far more useful. _________________ Toshiba Satellite Pro L300-28W. Intel Core 2 Duo T5870 2GHz, 3GB ram, Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit. |
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retroscifi Layman
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Posted: Sunday April 18th, 2010 12:55 Post subject: VST index |
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i've experienced problems with several vsts (instable, crashing) and i wondered if (in case it doesnt exist yet) we could make a list of all vsts which require extra settings in the polac loader + comment if it's the loader/plugin itself causing problems.
thx |
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Antonio All I get is a bunch of..
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Posted: Sunday April 18th, 2010 13:36 Post subject: Re: VST index |
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| retroscifi wrote: | i've experienced problems with several vsts (instable, crashing) and i wondered if (in case it doesnt exist yet) we could make a list of all vsts which require extra settings in the polac loader + comment if it's the loader/plugin itself causing problems.
thx |
http://buzzwiki.robotplanet.dk/index.php/Buzz_Manual
would be the ideal place for this i think. |
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polac Priest
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Posted: Sunday April 18th, 2010 19:35 Post subject: |
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| IX wrote: | | I'm getting stuck notes keyjazzing in Blok VST's patch editor. I'm guessing that there's a conflict with PVST's own keyjazz causing note-offs to go missing. I tried Preferences->Disable Keyjazzing figuring it would just prevent PVST's own keyjazz but it stops Blok's built in keyjazz too. Preferences->Route PC Keyboard Input To VST doesn't seem to make any difference to the problem. This is with 1.1.10b6. It didn't seem to happen as much with PVST 1.1.9.9.4. |
Zephod mailed me about this some time ago too. It seems that Blok's modular window somehow routes it's keyboard input(WM_KEYDOWN / WM_KEYUP etc.) back to the pvst window. Then the notes seem to get triggerd by both pvst and blok.
I think I could handle it but actually Zephod should try to fix this. |
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qnio Choir Girl
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 59
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Posted: Sunday April 18th, 2010 20:39 Post subject: |
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hi, i noticed some odd behaviour with Synth1 1.07. i think this might be easier to understand if you're familiar with this plugin.
in the previous pvst version making modifications to a preset, saving the song & opening it again worked perfectly, in the sense that the preset changes kept saved along with the song.
with pvst 1.1.10b6 this isn't working: if i load up a preset in Synth1's own preset manager (i made an "init" one to start from scratch), make some changes, save the song & open it again, pvst loads up the preset saved in the plugin preset manager (it does not load/save any subsequent changes).
a workaround for this is using the preset manager in Synth1 extensively: make changes, save them in the preset manager, etc. |
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engine Choir Girl
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Posted: Thursday April 29th, 2010 17:02 Post subject: |
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this loader gets better and better.
a tiny question, is it possible to exclude a specific folder from scanning?
a simple prefix in the xml.
got some very old registered vstis that refuse to load the new buzz + polac and i dont want the folder moved/deleted.
EDIT: typo.
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polac Priest
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Posted: Thursday April 29th, 2010 18:13 Post subject: |
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| mute wrote: | Synth1, as good and free as it is, is not without it's faults..
When 1.07 came out, an upgrade meant that you would lose all saved settings in song files because of some parameter miss-matching..
Now that 1.08 is out, I have not upgraded because of the pain in the @$$ that upgrading to 1.07 was. I still occassionally run into old broken sounding projects due to 1.07. |
Daichi did increase the number of programs to 12800 per vst bank now, too much for the loader right now, only about 1000 programs are accessible via the menu which is a bug.
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groovelastig Cardinal

Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 776 Location: duesseldorf, germany
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