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k-bird
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 Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 6:03 Post subject: PeerChord strumming |
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PeerChord is very nice, but there's one thing it doesn't automatically do: guitar chords. I know it's got a strum mode, but it only strums let's say E G# B as opposed to what an E chord would sound like on a guitar: E B E G# B E. You have to go through and program the chords yourself as custom thingies, basically.
Would anyone be interested in me doing a chart of as many guitar chords as i can manage to be used as custom chord shapes in PeerChord? They'd be spelt out in hex, of course. 
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| Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 13:45 Post subject: |
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You should definitely definitely do that. I would have done it myself, but I'm a severely challenged guitarist. I did make this silly little Excel sheet though, can't remember if I distributed it before.
Maybe I should totally rework peerchord one of these days... mostly the current version just shows up my ignorance of music theory (can you tell I just nicked all the chords from some website?) If the author of the ravenspiral guide would like to give me some suggestions on how it could be made more musician-friendly, he is more than welcome to... |
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k-bird
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| Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 17:26 Post subject: |
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| btd wrote: | | Maybe I should totally rework peerchord one of these days... mostly the current version just shows up my ignorance of music theory (can you tell I just nicked all the chords from some website?) |
You nicked them from Nutchords.
| btd wrote: | | If the author of the ravenspiral guide would like to give me some suggestions on how it could be made more musician-friendly, he is more than welcome to... |
Be happy to! It's much nicer than what i've been putting into the Guide lately and shall swell the appendices in fine form.
I kind of had another idea which would be tantamount to being able to track guitar tabs instead of notes. Tell me what you think of this idea for a peer controller:
What about a peer controller that allows you to input frettings on six different strings instead of in the usual note format? What if it then gave you different playing options like strumming or just sounding the notes one by one? What if you could also select a few different guitar tunings (standard EADGBE, drop-D DADGBE etc)?
I think it'd be a help for those who might want to think of music in terms of frets and strings and not in terms of the keyboard, which Buzz otherwise forces you to do.
Let's say your first six params are 8-bit hexdata much like the custom chord columns in the full version of PeerChord. 00 to 16 are triggers (a guitar has 22 fretting positions), 00 being an open string and 16 being the 22nd fret. To spell an Ama7 chord (x02120), you'd track
.. 00 02 01 02 00 (plus whatever other parameters)
1F on any string could be mute all, 1E on any string could be mute current string..
Also useful would be global note length and velocity, strum speed/direction (as well as a toggle).. admittedly this interface would kick seven shades of arse attached to an actual string modeller which allowed for pitch bending, hammerons and hammeroffs and all the other stuff guitars can do, but as a peer controller it would be able to command any other machine in Buzz and this would be very sweet indeed.
I don't want to distract you from developing Groupie since that looks really awesome, but it's just an idea i had.
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| Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 19:23 Post subject: |
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| btd wrote: | | I would have done it myself, but I'm a severely challenged guitarist. |
Then simply switch over to the colophon personality and have him write that stuff down for you! 
(yes, you guessed right, today is another instance of my favourite holiday, it's nonconstructive-comment-day again in usrland)
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| Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 19:43 Post subject: |
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| k-bird wrote: | | You nicked them from Nutchords. |
Oh yeah...  I can't even remember where I've stolen stuff from nowadays, how sad.
| k-bird wrote: | | I kind of had another idea which would be tantamount to being able to track guitar tabs instead of notes. Tell me what you think of this idea for a peer controller: |
Yeah, pretty neat idea. I was thinking along more-or-less the same lines myself a while ago. Must admit I really like the idea of linking it to a physical model... one for the hypothetical to-do list maybe.
| usr wrote: | | Then simply switch over to the colophon personality and have him write that stuff down for you! |
Pff... that Colophon asshole is a bigger faker than Kurt Cobain was.
| usr wrote: | | (yes, you guessed right, today is another instance of my favourite holiday, it's nonconstructive-comment-day again in usrland) |
usrland: where every day's nonconstructive-comment-day! |
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k-bird
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| Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 20:04 Post subject: |
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| btd wrote: | | You should definitely definitely do that. |
Have some chords then. These are based around an E barre shape and so will travel fairly well. I'm finding it's possible to just leave off the final to get A-shaped barres in many cases, so if you want it to sound like a real guitar you have to change the last parameter to 30 once you hit a chord higher than A.
E barre: ROOT + 07 0C 10 13 18
Emi barre: ROOT + 07 0C 0F 13 18
Esus4 barre: ROOT + 07 0C 11 13 18
E7 barre: ROOT + 07 0A 10 13 18
Ema7 barre: ROOT + 07 0B 10 13 18
Emi7 barre: ROOT + 07 0A 0F 13 18
Ema/mi7 barre: ROOT + 07 0B 0F 13 18
E7sus4 barre: ROOT + 07 0A 11 13 18
E6 barre: ROOT + 07 0C 10 16 18
Emi6 barre: ROOT + 07 0C 0F 16 18
E6/9 barre: ROOT + 07 0C 10 16 1A
EDIT: Also, have a demo of showing the use of full guitar chords playing MBV's classic track Only Shallow, http://www.ravenspiral.com/krx210-onlyshallow.zip
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| Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 21:54 Post subject: |
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| k-bird wrote: | | Have some chords then. |
Awesome. If I do another version of peerchord, I am totally going to pilfer these and then tell people I got them from "some website". Seriously, thanks, this is great. Any more?
Double awesome. |
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k-bird
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| Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 22:41 Post subject: |
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I shall whip some more up over the next few days. Right now i've managed to stay awake until 6am and it's cold and my bed is looking inviting right now.
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| Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 22:50 Post subject: |
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For me this website is quite helpful for making custom guitar peer chords: http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php?v=1
because it's easy to see how much steps/semitones you have to go up for the next peer note according to a real guitar. |
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k-bird
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| Posted: Wednesday April 27th, 2005 7:27 Post subject: |
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I've compiled a nice PDF chart of notes that i made up to help with translating guitar chords from notes to hex offsets. It also includes all the chords from the Ravenspiral Guide Version 0.4 at the end.
http://www.ravenspiral.com/bigchart.pdf
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Any chance of an update of PeerChord to accomodate guitar strumming?  |
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kwisatz haderach
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| Posted: Tuesday February 12th, 2008 11:04 Post subject: strumming |
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I dont use peer machines yet, but if there is a way to use peer to play guitar chords only, then I want it.
I lack knowledge of music theory, thought. |
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gazzz
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| Posted: Tuesday February 12th, 2008 15:38 Post subject: Re: strumming |
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| kwisatz haderach wrote: | I dont use peer machines yet, but if there is a way to use peer to play guitar chords only, then I want it.
I lack knowledge of music theory, thought. |
it's make all "strings" play at once time tick ) it's no naturaly ...
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kwisatz haderach
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| Posted: Tuesday February 12th, 2008 16:35 Post subject: Re: strumming |
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| gazzz wrote: |
it's make all "strings" play at once time tick ) it's no naturaly ... |
I dont expect physical modeling. It will be nice to play some guitar chords.  |
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