| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
ekral
Bishop
Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Posts: 327
Location: Czech Republic, Zlin/BpH
|
 Posted: Tuesday December 14th, 2004 11:14 Post subject: Buzz for Linux ... Buzztard !!! |
 |
|
Hi,
I am just impressed by Buzztard, it could be a buzz clone for linux that shuld load buzz machine and buzz songs ??? 
Does anybody know more?
ekral |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
DocBexter
Altar Boy
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Posts: 28
Location: Berlin
|
| Posted: Tuesday December 14th, 2004 19:18 Post subject: |
|
|
| wow - looks like they re progressing fast ... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KoDream
Deacon
Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 137
Location: Columbia, Missouri USA
|
| Posted: Tuesday December 14th, 2004 20:34 Post subject: |
|
|
| I wonder, does it cross compile for other platforms, or what would it take to make it cross compile for multiple pltaforms? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
krokpitr
Altar Boy
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Posts: 36
Location: Hungary
|
| Posted: Wednesday December 15th, 2004 8:43 Post subject: |
|
|
Another Buzz clone for Linux: BEAST/BSE (but absolutely different from Buzz)
http://beast.gtk.org/ |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
z_tetha
Cardinal
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 921
Location: synthesis
|
| Posted: Wednesday December 15th, 2004 15:56 Post subject: |
|
|
 must i now learn linux  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ekral
Bishop
Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Posts: 327
Location: Czech Republic, Zlin/BpH
|
| Posted: Thursday December 16th, 2004 7:22 Post subject: |
|
|
Hi,
just interesting news from Buzzle
ekral |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Xenobioz
Archbishop
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Posts: 579
Location: Sihanoukville Cambodia
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
lykwydchykyn
Choir Girl
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 54
Location: Nashville, TN
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ensonic
Believer
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Posts: 11
|
| Posted: Wednesday December 29th, 2004 15:34 Post subject: |
|
|
yes, learn linux, we could use a few codes joining our project 
... and thanks for finding us. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ps
Choir Girl
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
Posts: 81
Location: coimbra / gaia
|
| Posted: Tuesday January 4th, 2005 14:53 Post subject: |
|
|
| hmmm.. i always heard from a friend of mine that uses linux that buzz is more stable under linux with wine then on windows itself... i never bothered checking couz i have no linux installation around.. but i wonder.. anyone with experience in this area (abusing wine and abusing buzz) tried it? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
lykwydchykyn
Choir Girl
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 54
Location: Nashville, TN
|
| Posted: Tuesday January 4th, 2005 19:47 Post subject: |
|
|
Hey ensonic!
Will buzztard require jack and a low-latency kernal patch? These are the two things that seem to screw up every attempt I make at a linux audio machine. Even with pre-made distros like agnula and dynebolic.
_________________
Home recorded CD reviews at lovelabormusic.com
My tunes and other stuff |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Farq
Disciple of Eris
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Posts: 483
Location: Canada
|
| Posted: Monday January 10th, 2005 12:10 Post subject: |
|
|
Linux based buzz-likes are actually pretty common. unfortuantely they're generally not the killer app that buzz is. Of course recent developments are helping to change that (e.g. buzztard, the many new opensource projects that hope to be ported, etc.)
3 off the top of my head:
- ARTS (part of KDE)
- gsynth
- Spiral Synth Modular (SSM).
There's a bunch more that I can't remember the names of, but I'd guess there's about a dozen overall. ARTS is a joke (IMO), I don't remember much about gsynth, and SSM is a bit klunky.
I'd like to see something MIDI driven (with its own loopback) so that any MIDI seq. would do, be that ztracker, shaketracker or something else... maybe not even a tracker. Of course, there's problems with a pure MIDI driven app like this... or I assume there are.
Anyway, I'm optimistic about buzztard and some others.
_________________
- farq
roksteady |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ensonic
Believer
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Posts: 11
|
| Posted: Monday January 10th, 2005 22:54 Post subject: |
|
|
| lykwydchykyn wrote: | Hey ensonic!
Will buzztard require jack and a low-latency kernal patch? These are the two things that seem to screw up every attempt I make at a linux audio machine. Even with pre-made distros like agnula and dynebolic. |
No Because we use gstreamer (http://gstreamer.freedesktop.net) it can use any soud-output methods that gstreamer supports and that renages from jack to even simple sound-servers like esound. of course using esound will mean high latency  . |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ensonic
Believer
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Posts: 11
|
| Posted: Monday January 10th, 2005 22:57 Post subject: |
|
|
| KoDream wrote: | | I wonder, does it cross compile for other platforms, or what would it take to make it cross compile for multiple pltaforms? |
In theory it build one windows and macos too. We are quite carefully about what components we require. Current portabillity blockers are:
- on windows gstreamer has no hardware plugins yet (therefore you can only render your sonfg to e.g. mp3 or ogg)
- there is an internal component (ORBIT) that is used by many gnome libs, but not yet working on win32. the good thing there is so work in progress on the issue right now |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ensonic
Believer
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Posts: 11
|
| Posted: Monday January 10th, 2005 22:58 Post subject: |
|
|
| Farq wrote: |
Anyway, I'm optimistic about buzztard and some others. |
Me too |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
humhum
Believer
Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 5
|
| Posted: Friday October 13th, 2006 8:55 Post subject: pump |
|
|
| Pumping this one up... Any news on buzztard? The content of www.buzztard.org seems VERY interesting.... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
usr
Pope
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 1156
Location: nuremberg, franconia, germany, europe
|
| Posted: Friday October 13th, 2006 19:20 Post subject: |
|
|
instead of reviving topics that are close to 2 years old by now, why don't you just take a look at this?
no better news source than that.
_________________
.nl chefs go blok blok blok |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
kibibu
Pope
Joined: 11 Mar 2005
Posts: 1379
Location: Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
|
| Posted: Saturday October 14th, 2006 1:23 Post subject: |
|
|
Some of you linux types might also be interested in Beast
http://beast.gtk.org/
_________________
core i7 920, 6gb ram, windows 7
p4 2.4ghz, 1gb ram, xp home
kibibu |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Farq
Disciple of Eris
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Posts: 483
Location: Canada
|
| Posted: Saturday October 14th, 2006 1:59 Post subject: |
|
|
I looked at Beast before and decided it wasn't worth using, but I think that was a very long time ago. I have no idea why I didn't like it, maybe I should look again. This looks like it's about as good as the arts synth, but with decent pattern/sequence/visual components. I am judging by the cover, here.
Judging from the screenshots, it was probably the different I/O connections that annoyed me. What do others think about this? I personally find it too busy and way messy when I just want to route audio... I don't want to *have* to route other things. Maybe if it had encapsulation and/or clicking the central area of the machine would automatically pick up the audio channel...
I think the major recurring issue with Linux audio apps is plain and simple UI trouble. A lot of apps are built with the mindset that the user will be either mousing it, or that the UI is an academic problem and not worth spending much time on. But a good UI is more conducive to good music than a good engine is. I still miss the perfect comfort of Impulse Tracker. (My big wish is to see a buzzclone that can be operated comfortably without ever touching the mouse, but WMs are always mouse-first oriented in just about every aspect.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
humhum
Believer
Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 5
|
| Posted: Tuesday October 31st, 2006 11:12 Post subject: |
|
|
Ok, there's a release now
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=55124
has anyone tested it? I wasn't able to build it, because the configure program complained on some missing packages, which I by the way have installed on my ubuntu system. Accordingly it had something to do with the default paths to the programs, which are different in ubuntu?
But anyway, it would be nice to hear from someone what the first buzztard release can do/feels like. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
