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 Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 0:01 Post subject: Overloader for NewBuzz |
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HELL YES
You also need http://www.buzzformat.com/overloader/
There are still some bugs apparently, on my machine for example parameter windows get stuck after moving them, but man I've been secretly hoping for this for ages!
Three cheers for cyanphase 
edit: Tab order in the wavetable seems a little off, can't get to the filebrowser by keyboard...
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| Quote: | 3. To use overloader in its fullest, you need to load the 00TempCMIAdd
(the zeros make it easy to access from double click).
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focus on the machine view, type 0, press enter 
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 6:09 Post subject: |
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Hurrah
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 7:37 Post subject: |
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Hip Hip Hurray !!
unfortunately it loads ... and ... loads ... and i can see HD KeybRoll on the machine editor ... but finally it crashes here.
to make it work with 'New Buzz' i tried to put only the 'CyanPhase New Buzz Overloader.dll' and both dlls (standard overloader and new overloader) into the gear directory ... makes no difference:
'New Buzz' tries to load for a while ... then it crashes.
probably a NO SSE2 issue ??
actually i revived my 'bat-start-method', because 'Old Buzz' made problems with the 'CyanPhase New Buzz Overloader.dll' in the gear directory.
| Start Buzz 00 wrote: |
copy "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Buzz00.exe" "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Buzz.exe"
rename "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\CyanPhase New Buzz Overloader.dll" "CyanPhase New Buzz Overloader.dxx"
copy "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\index.txt.00" "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\index.txt"
start /ABOVENORMAL buzz.exe
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the bat file for 'New Buzz' would be like this (if the new overloader would work):
| Start Buzz 08 wrote: |
copy "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Buzz08.exe" "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Buzz.exe"
rename "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\CyanPhase New Buzz Overloader.dxx" "CyanPhase New Buzz Overloader.dll"
copy "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\index.txt.08" "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\index.txt"
start /ABOVENORMAL buzz08.exe
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i have backups for old (Buzz00.exe) and new Buzz (Buzz08.exe) and copies of my index.txt for each executable (index.txt.00 and index.txt.08 ) in my Buzz folder. |
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 8:57 Post subject: |
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Try renaming Keybroll.dll to .dxx, I've had that hanging problem | thOke wrote: | | unfortunately it loads ... and ... loads ... and i can see HD KeybRoll on the machine editor ... but finally it crashes here. |
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 10:19 Post subject: |
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It does make me kind of glad I keep OldBuzz and NewBuzz in different directories.
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 12:50 Post subject: |
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Oh my god! I'm so happy I could cry!
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 14:11 Post subject: |
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| Does HD CoolEditor work for anyone? It doesn't show up in the list when I click the Edit Sample button but it does show up in the extended options startup tab. Turning off auto-load of CoolEditor makes no difference. Not sure what version I've got but I think it's the latest one, dll dated 18th April 2004. |
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 19:14 Post subject: |
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| cyanphase wrote: | Try renaming Keybroll.dll to .dxx, I've had that hanging problem | thOke wrote: | | unfortunately it loads ... and ... loads ... and i can see HD KeybRoll on the machine editor ... but finally it crashes here. |
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yes, thanks ... that fixed the crash !
now my bat file looks like this : 
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copy "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Buzz08.exe" "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Buzz.exe"
rename "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\WaveEditors\KeybRoll.dll" "KeybRoll.dxx"
rename "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\CyanPhase New Buzz Overloader.dxx" "CyanPhase New Buzz Overloader.dll"
copy "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\index.txt.08" "C:\Audio\Studios\Buzz\Gear\index.txt"
start /ABOVENORMAL buzz.exe |
Cool Editor does not work ... in fact none of the wave editors appears in the menu yet in New Buzz here.
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 19:20 Post subject: |
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Now I can change for new Buzz definitively.
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 19:20 Post subject: |
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| wayfinder wrote: | | It does make me kind of glad I keep OldBuzz and NewBuzz in different directories. |
imo it's easier and more stable to have them in one directory ... no issues with different registry entries, neither for BUZZ itself, nor for PVST or anything else ..... but that's probably just my opinion  |
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| Posted: Saturday December 13th, 2008 21:14 Post subject: |
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| thOke wrote: | | wayfinder wrote: | | It does make me kind of glad I keep OldBuzz and NewBuzz in different directories. |
imo it's easier and more stable to have them in one directory ... no issues with different registry entries, neither for BUZZ itself, nor for PVST or anything else ..... but that's probably just my opinion |
well.. there's alot of problems with several dlls that the current exe's will hate on or that shouldnt be there, such as the previously mentioned hd kbroll. at the very least, using one directory makes a bad candidate for tracking down any bugs because there will be files there that shouldn't be,.. so the "problem" could be anything.
there's also been updates to pvst specifically for the new exes, whereas the old pvst (bm.com) is still the best version for buzz1.2b. same thing for other machines too and considering the way that overloader old and overloader works, codewise, it makes even less sense to share the same directory. not to mention the new buzz machines that won't work in old buzz.
pvst - it doesn't matter/care if you change directories. the only thing you have to do for yourself is make sure you continue to put your vsts in the correct folder, or if you moved them add the new path in pvst's config. by default it'll use the path used when initially setup so if c:\buzz\gear\vst was the original and then you run c:\buzz2\buzz.exe, it'll still look in c:\buzz\gear\vst by default.
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| Posted: Sunday December 14th, 2008 7:33 Post subject: |
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well, i agree to a certain degree ... when the last update of some peer machines (especially peer lfo) was not compatible with Old Buzz anymore i thought to switch to two directories for the first time ...
but i guess i will just wait until i can get rid of the old one and exclusively use the current executable. |
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| Posted: Sunday December 14th, 2008 15:46 Post subject: |
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I took the opportunity and made a very clean install for new buzz, with only the most used machines and Im very very happy with it. I ve done it with my buze install too and its great. And i keep the huge old buzz for old tracks.
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| Posted: Sunday December 14th, 2008 18:38 Post subject: |
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great newws!!
thanks, cyanphase!
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| Posted: Sunday December 14th, 2008 23:12 Post subject: |
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| Good stuff ! Unfortunately at the moment if I try to use the Machine View Size button on the Right Click menu it makes Buzz do a nasty little crash ... |
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| Posted: Monday December 15th, 2008 11:48 Post subject: |
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This is fantastic news. Cyanphase be praised.
I had some problems:
- The CoolEdit thing not working (like a couple of other people in this thread have already metnioned). No buttons in the wavetable to send the wave to the editor, and no mention of CoolEdit, in the button that opens a menu of the editors. This is a shame, because CoolEdit is definitely the most important feature of Overloader for me.
- Machine view scrollbar areas appear as grey boxes. They still work, and once you click them they become visible as normal scrollbars. So this is only a graphical bug. The functionality is unhindered.
- When using the parameter window height limit, some parameter windows open approx. 60 px high (seems to be the smallest height possible) every time the window is opened.
- The extended Help button in the parameter (the one with the menu for help options) windows appears randomly. Not at all for some windows, only when the window is first opened for some, and never for some. I haven't been able to decipher a behavioral pattern for this yet.
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| Posted: Monday December 15th, 2008 22:06 Post subject: |
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| Ravesomniac wrote: | So how do I get the wavetable to work? It just makes anoying bleeping sounds when i click on the samples? And when I try to change the settings in the extended menu it doesn't get saved.  |
I am also having problems with the wavetable since I downloaded this, in Oldbuzz & Newbuzz. Samples won't play when I click on them, & when I try to transfer them over to the Buzz wavetable nothing happens. HALP
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| Posted: Tuesday December 16th, 2008 3:23 Post subject: |
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| Cryptowen wrote: | | Ravesomniac wrote: | | So how do I get the wavetable to work? It just makes anoying bleeping sounds when i click on the samples? And when I try to change the settings in the extended menu it doesn't get saved. |
I am also having problems with the wavetable since I downloaded this, in Oldbuzz & Newbuzz. Samples won't play when I click on them, & when I try to transfer them over to the Buzz wavetable nothing happens. HALP |
just to be clear.. this overloader patch/etc. is for the lastest exe, it has nothing to do with the old buzz.
but anyways... as far as wavetable audio, for that to work you have to make sure that your selected audio output driver is set to Overloader Output Extensions. this is vital..
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| Posted: Tuesday December 16th, 2008 3:27 Post subject: |
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| mute wrote: | | just to be clear.. this overloader patch/etc. is for the lastest exe, it has nothing to do with the old buzz. |
I know, but it seems to be causing the problem in NewBuzz for sure, & suddenly OldBuzz is having this same problem which I've never seen before.
| Quote: | | but anyways... as far as wavetable audio, for that to work you have to make sure that your selected audio output driver is set to Overloader Output Extensions. this is vital.. |
It is. I'm pretty sure adding the Overloader is the only change I've made recently, & removing it seems to fix the problem (but I don't want to do that, because then I'd have to go back to OldBuzz. OldBuzz smells funny & he talks to himself).
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| Posted: Wednesday December 17th, 2008 18:06 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | but anyways... as far as wavetable audio, for that to work you have to make sure that your selected audio output driver is set to Overloader Output Extensions. this is vital.. |
That doesn't make a difference... 
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| Posted: Thursday December 18th, 2008 7:27 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I see what you are talking about now that I've tried the OL patch, looks like that doesn't work yet, It's just the begining though..
btw..It had no effect on Buzz 1.2b, that still works fine. i run 2 seperate directories.
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| Posted: Thursday December 18th, 2008 15:49 Post subject: |
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New Overloader causes problem with BTDSys PeerLFO - something weird is happened when I change Wave Shape for Ramp Up and then I try to change Rate for 0 12/16 (writing 12 + enter - for example).
The only thing I can do is delete PeerLFO and put once more, however, the problem is reproducible. (under new Buzz of course).
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| Posted: Friday December 19th, 2008 13:07 Post subject: |
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| McGrbv wrote: | | New Overloader causes problem with BTDSys PeerLFO.... |
It's not just PeerLFO. It's a problem with parameter windows in general. I'd guess that Buzz remembering the window size and position and adding scrollbars confuses some of the original Overloader code. I'm sure it'll get fixed sooner or later. |
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| Posted: Friday December 19th, 2008 22:33 Post subject: |
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I didnt have that problem when I was testing out this patch (tho I had some others). Try disabling the Transparency features..
Look forward to the future updates, thanks for giving us a peak cyan and letting us know you're working on it :]
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| Posted: Saturday December 20th, 2008 19:22 Post subject: |
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The Transparency isn't the reason of those disturbances. Perhaps it is only my problem. I found that this problem appears at every attempt at changing any parameter in any machine by writing any value and pressing enter.
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| Posted: Saturday December 20th, 2008 21:16 Post subject: |
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| McGrbv wrote: | | The Transparency isn't the reason of those disturbances. Perhaps it is only my problem. I found that this problem appears at every attempt at changing any parameter in any machine by writing any value and pressing enter. |
I get it when I move the window...
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I have the same problem with transparency after installing CyanPhase Overloader for Buzz08:
 It seems that the window has connected with the toolbar. I cannot close it.
Why is one of Overloaders accessing the FDD?
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| Posted: Monday January 5th, 2009 18:25 Post subject: |
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| WebCM wrote: | | It seems that the window has connected with the toolbar. |
So it seems.
In the meantime, as mute wrote, I'm looking forward to the future updates.
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| Posted: Saturday January 31st, 2009 1:02 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It seems that the window has connected with the toolbar. I cannot close it. |
Same issue here, but you can close the window with alt+f4.
Funny: Is Green Milks parameter window different then the rest? It is staying normal. All other machines I tryed where messed up.
Good to know that ole OL is not lost
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waiting on that callback hack to get sorted to try this out but it does seem to be taking its time :/
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| Posted: Sunday March 15th, 2009 11:27 Post subject: |
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Now new overloader is acting beyond reproach with latest buzz (Build 1054) - at least at me
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| Posted: Monday March 16th, 2009 4:48 Post subject: |
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| shango wrote: | | Is Green Milks parameter window different then the rest? |
It's made with more love. Otherwise, no.
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| Posted: Monday March 16th, 2009 11:23 Post subject: |
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Oh happy glorious day! I just got HD CoolEditor to work! Rolled back to version 'i' from 9th June 2003 and it works!
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| Posted: Monday March 16th, 2009 16:57 Post subject: |
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Yes, yes, yes. Above-mentioned version indeed acts under new Buzz. Thx for the discovery. 
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| Posted: Monday March 16th, 2009 18:08 Post subject: |
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Oh thank you, thank you, thank you for the discovery IX. This was the thing I missed the most from old Buzz+OL.
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