I wanted to do a poll too... Compression is the topic

[Inductive]

So... I may miss some compressors, if so someone send me a message and I will... most likely say sorry :/ anyway... I am just searching through my effects dir, if I sxcrew up and put a non-compressing machine in the list feel free to vote for it anyway I guess. Ok... lets see if I can not screw this up.
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[mute]

as far as buzz machines go, automaton mkII... but i use joachims often too. oppressor2 is bound to take over though when it's final.
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[wayfinder]

Yeah, Joachim's is what I use most. Although I'm impressed by ld scomp and Oppressor 2, and I can't wait for the finals.
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[nool]

guess it depends on what you want to do

i like bg comp for basses/drums - makes em pump

also i like joachim multi which uses joachim comp ... so that one is cool too

fuzzpilz oppressor is rather new, so i haven't figured that one out yet, but looks very interesting, fuzz already on the move with o2 ... hehe he rules, hook up two chorpses and u'll see what i mean :p
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[Hamst3r]

Compression is for losers.

DIGITAL CLIPPING IS WHERE IT'S AT! WESTSOOID!!!!!
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[usr]

i voted opp, but i like my own oppressor as well (old, primitive, but great when you want to just kill those signals over the threshold).

and if the opps don't do it, yay for clipping, compressors are only good if used for shaping the clipping envelope
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[Xenobioz]

I used joachims compressor, often propably at horrible settings because I didnt understand anything about compression and how to use compressors.

Now I use joachims Limiter at the deafult setting.
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[RDEskid]

I use more and more compression but fewer compressors (as opposed to limiters and multi-effect machines) with each successive track I make, it seems...gotta agree with nool, it depends on the purpose.

Geonik's Compressor - Yeah, it's old, and I don't really use it anymore, but I always thought it gave me the best drum sounds. I'd still use it if it didn't crash buzz so damn much.

Joachim's Comp - On the rare occassion I use basic compression nowadays, this is my choice.

Joachim's Limiter - I don't think I've made a track without this plugin (or multiple instances thereof) since like 2002. Maybe that's part of my problem. Would have got my vote except that a.) it's not technically a "compressor", b.) It's not in the poll, and c.):

DocBexter BuzzRizer V2 - Obviously not for single instruments (due to the ridiculous latency), but ace for mastering. I just recently started using this one, and I have NO clue what this is really doing or what the controls actually affect (anybody wanna clue me in), but GOD-DAMN does it make things sound pretty when you mess with it. In fact, in a way, I kinda like that it makes no sense, because it forces me to adjust it with my ears rather than my eyes and sense of what the parameters should be. This one got my vote because it's so fun and sounds so nice.

I usually try to try out gear I haven't used before whenever I make a new track. I haven't tried the oppressor or bgtech yet, but so many people seem to like them so I'll have to give them a shot.

I also gotta give honorable mention to the compressor & limiter in Izotope Ozone 3 (yeah, I'm lazy), and the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor and Classic Master Limiter (very warm, punchy sounding, and FREE), but they're all VST's so they don't really count in this discussion. Still worth checking out tho.
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[DocBexter]

*hihi*

maybe i shouldnt try to make it work/look like a compressor and just include a function to user-name the parameters ...

nono - really - "i willl fix the limiter" - "i will make it behave like parameters suggest" - "i will get the RoomSim under user control" - "i will release good versions in future" ..... "i will do it all in Jan'05"

[KoDream]

Do you usually

limit -> noise gate -> compress

or

noise gate -> limit -> compress

[DocBexter]

limiting usually at last

compression ( single band ) never on summ and only where really needed

noise gate (single band)- i usually try to avoid noise if u want to fight noise get some wave editor and do it offline - u might also use it as FX to get a pumping sound or alike - call it expander in that case, one could think u try to remove noise hehe - if u didnt overcompress u usually dont need an expander but for that purpose i would use it before limiter and after multi-band-(compression/auto equalization)

[paniq]

i use an unreleased version of automatons compressor, the automaton compressor 2, which is basically like v1, but stereo and with a very short minimum attack time.

[KoDream]

[DocBexter]

in general: noise gate = expander with purpose to reduce (audible) noise

well it is hair-cutting ... where was the topic

why did u ask for effect orders ?

[KoDream]

some people looking for a fight, some people looking for answers

me I just wanted to know if the order made a difference.

[Hamst3r]

KoDream It can make a big difference.

Example (with unrealistic numbers):

You have a sound where the noise floor is at around -40 db and the loudest sound is around -10db and you want that -10db to be up to 0db and you want to gain the input +3db more to saturate the signal... the noise floor would be around -27db...in other words, really loud...

so you add your noise gate:

1. If the noise gate is before the compressor and is set to -38 db then when the incoming sound gets down to -40 db it would drop out smoothly.

2. If the noisegate is after the compressor first off a threshold of -40db won't work anymore cause now it never reaches -40, it only goes down to -27. So you change your threshold to -25db. Now the drop is much greater, might not sound as smooth. The noise floor also might not be very steady...The compressor might boost the make-up gain as it releases the compression: which could make your noise gate flutter/stutter or do other weird shit.

It also might not do any of that...I touch poop and eat grasshoppers. so don't listen to me.
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[e-client]

mostly using bg comp. but i dont really use it because it flattens the sound levels, i use them more as limiters before inputs. when building my standard setup (gen - effects - comp - mixer - comp - master) i just use them to have an even input into the mixer, and dont mess around with the volume inputs themselves (the arrow thingies in F3). that way you could say i use compressors more as limiters, and aside the fact that most people bitch about the bg stuff, i use them because i got used to it. joachims comp does wonders to the sound, most times for drastic leveling i use that one. i also use it as a distortion thing, since it does a nice smooth analog sounding distortion when attack and decay set to very low settings.

the final comp after the mixer is only a limiter and sound smoother kinda, with slight settings.

it always depends on what you are using it for. for drums i tend to use more drastical settings, not connecting all drum parts to the compressor, sometimes the kick alone one compressor, then goes into another one where the rest of the drumstuff is connected to, and then there is another compressor for those drumparts that dont have to be connected on the kickcompressor... yeah... modularity rocks...

i dont care what an effect technically does basically. i just have to know what the output sounds like, and know what parameters influence what in the sound. it just has to sound nice. and that is what compressors mostly do, they make things sound nicer... =)

and now... bitch about me... c'mon!
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[sparschäler]

I never found out how to use bg sidechain compression. could anyone explain me, please?