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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 15:41    Post subject: Can anyone build a simple switcher? Reply with quote

Can anyone develope a simple line switcher. I don’t understand C++ and therefore I cant build one myself. But c’mon guys there’s someone on this forum that can build a line switcher. All i need is a single parameter with the choice of signal (A,B,C,D.....) so that i can switch through different fx chains from one generator.

Heres what i mean

Generator->-Switcher->-FX chain A ->- MASTER
---------------------->-FX chain B ->-MASTER
---------------------->-FX chain C ->-MASTER

Theres plenty of "line in" switchers but nobody has developed a "line out" switcher. Is this a physical impossibility, i heard somewhere that Buzz has been coded in such a way that makes this very difficult to develope.
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 15:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much are you paying Wink

youi mean as single in - multi out machine. this should be easy using polac multi out - unfortunately I barely have enough time to finish my own machines off.. i might already have one of these so will have a look later.
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 15:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.buzzchurch.com/viewtopic.php?t=504

http://www.buzzchurch.com/viewtopic.php?t=712


edit: ...and there's that one intoxicat may have somewhere Wink
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 16:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flat I’ve had a look at these topics before, but they don’t really answer my question. The way they’ve described the routing options is way too complicated (although I admit they are not complicated) what I mean the method they describe are way too complicated for what I want to achieve. I literally want one parameter with the choice of what line out I want to select.

Intoxicat if you’ve got one in your library of machines that would be wonderful. I’m sure you can help out one of your fellow countryman. (although I am welsh), ok let say your fellow islander.
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 16:52    Post subject: Re: Can anyone build a simple switcher? Reply with quote

Vjesk wrote:
Can anyone develope a simple line switcher...


Why not

Generator->-FX chain A >
----------->-FX chain B > Switcher-> MASTER
----------->-FX chain C >

????

http://voyager.adsl.dk/files/buzz/fSwitch.dll
http://www.zen30378.zen.co.uk/switcher.zip
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 17:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thoke you just made me look like an idiot. Never thought of that. But anyway due to my lack of brainpower id preffer the other way (because i want to be awkward!!!). But yes Thoke your right. Can you list the fx machines with this possibility?
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 17:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Green Smile

I already posted the links to two machines that do input-'switching'
with the answer above ...
You can also use one of the mixers to switch between several fx-chains.
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 17:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

thokes suggestion would work however it would use up more cpu as all the effect chains woudl be active at the same time... an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!! Wink

and btw - dont lump me in with those ashes-dropping-thumb-sucking-loosers of the English. I am Swedish - only live in the uk. Dance
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

intoxicat wrote:
thokes suggestion would work however it would use up more cpu as all the effect chains woudl be active at the same time... an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!! Wink


Are really all effects active although you somehow 'cut' the connection
to the master with the switcher ?

... too lazy to test that right now Cool
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

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an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!! Wink

we love his light, fast machines and effects.don't we? Smile
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Domtron wrote:
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an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!! Wink

we love his light, fast machines and effects.don't we? Smile

We even stopped writing "Kibubu" Smile
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are really all effects active although you somehow 'cut' the connection
to the master with the switcher ?

what about writing in a vst effect, stereo/mono amp column=0000,on connection?
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't you just use a PeerState setup to selectively mute inputs to a machine? Or even the Master?

Code:

      / FX A \
Chain - FX B -> Master
      \ FX C /


And then just make three states, and switch between them.
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

wayfinder wrote:
Couldn't you just use a PeerState setup to selectively mute inputs to a machine? Or even the Master?

Code:

Chain -> FX A -> Master
----- -> FX B -> Master
----- -> FX C -> Master


And then just make three states, and switch between them.


That's what i would do in those cases LOL ... but i don't need a live-switcher and simply insert 'on'/'off'-patterns for the first effect in each chain in the sequencer.
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 19:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

look into vst solutions like oli larkin's quadpan and quadmix.

http://www.oli.adbe.org/freeware.shtml

my personal favorites for this but definitely not the only ones i use..
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PostPosted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 23:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

wayfinder wrote:
We even stopped writing "Kibubu" Smile

aww thanks guys LOL

i'll look into this again when I get a little more time (I know you guys hear this a lot from devs!)

edit: tox that multi-out rrouter code you pm'd me appears to do just this...
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PostPosted: Thursday December 7th, 2006 0:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you achieve this with d9's strip effect with its solo capability?

I.e.
Code:
    ------>strip--->fx chain---
   |                           |
signal --->strip--->fx chain---+->master
   |                           |
    ------>strip--->fx chain---


Solo the strip machine you want the signal to go through
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PostPosted: Thursday December 7th, 2006 9:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

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edit: tox that multi-out rrouter code you pm'd me appears to do just this...


ah you mean this: www.intoxicat.co.uk/rrouter.zip

edit: there is no interpolcation between the outputs and it is just a 'test' machine i made to figure outhow to use the polac multi out system. (v1)
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PostPosted: Thursday December 7th, 2006 13:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

kibibu wrote:
Can't you achieve this with d9's strip effect with its solo capability?

I.e.
Code:
    ------>strip--->fx chain---
   |                           |
signal --->strip--->fx chain---+->master
   |                           |
    ------>strip--->fx chain---


Solo the strip machine you want the signal to go through


That'll do it but you might want to reduce the gain inertia attribute to trim the fade in/out times down.

Hmmm. Could be a potential bug if the gain inertia is 0. I'll have to check that one! LOL

Edit: Oops Blushing Pesky bugs!
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PostPosted: Thursday December 7th, 2006 20:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

start each FX chain with a Cheapo Amp.

use a BTDsys PeerState bound to the mute setting of those Cheapo Amps.

peerstate pattern 1: on, off, off...
peerstate pattern 2: off, on, off...
peerstate pattern 3: off, off, on...

...etc.
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PostPosted: Friday December 8th, 2006 10:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

or just use rrouter Smile
if i get time this evening i will add inertia to it...
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PostPosted: Friday December 8th, 2006 14:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

thOke wrote:
intoxicat wrote:
thokes suggestion would work however it would use up more cpu as all the effect chains woudl be active at the same time... an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!! Wink


Are really all effects active although you somehow 'cut' the connection
to the master with the switcher ?

... too lazy to test that right now Cool


you can remote control the input volumes of machines (from code, peer-style). if you turn it to 0, it mutes the signal and no CPU is consumed. i forgot how you do it exactly, but i did it in SpeedLoader originally, though i think i changed to a different method for the final thing.

i would use my MuteX machine for this kind of thing (well, if i'd finished it), along with a PeerState.
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PostPosted: Thursday January 4th, 2007 14:52    Post subject: Switcher Reply with quote

A dev guy i know wrote this plugin called fSwitch which does what i think you need (after not really reading carefully enough)
  1. Take a bunch of signals.
  2. Connect them to fSwitch
  3. Connect the output to the master or something like that

DOWNLOAD

Thanks to my friend Nafai in Tokyo for this one.


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PostPosted: Monday March 22nd, 2010 16:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

so i posted a question similar to this regarding Fswitch . (sending out a "+1" command from a midi controller so that i can switch between different effects chains ) and I guess the easiest answer is peerstate ? Ive never used that particular peer controller so will have to investigate ..
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PostPosted: Monday March 22nd, 2010 16:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

syphilissauna wrote:
so i posted a question similar to this regarding Fswitch . (sending out a "+1" command from a midi controller so that i can switch between different effects chains ) and I guess the easiest answer is peerstate ? Ive never used that particular peer controller so will have to investigate ..


http://www.buzzmachines.com/machineinfo.php?id=1020

use this with fswitch
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PostPosted: Monday March 22nd, 2010 17:50    Post subject: Re: Switcher Reply with quote

JoaCHIP wrote:
A dev guy i know wrote this plugin called fSwitch which does what i think you need (after not really reading carefully enough)
  1. Take a bunch of signals.
  2. Connect them to fSwitch
  3. Connect the output to the master or something like that

DOWNLOAD

Thanks to my friend Nafai in Tokyo for this one.


this link should work

DOWNLOAD
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PostPosted: Monday March 22nd, 2010 18:28    Post subject: Re: Can anyone build a simple switcher? Reply with quote

thOke wrote:
Vjesk wrote:
Can anyone develope a simple line switcher...


Why not

Generator->-FX chain A >
----------->-FX chain B > Switcher-> MASTER
----------->-FX chain C >

????


I was gonna suggest exactly that Very Happy All I'd do is stick in a cheapo do-nothing and make different patterns with mutes on the chain I want off and a break on what I want switched on. Simple !
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PostPosted: Wednesday June 16th, 2010 9:52    Post subject: Posted on buzzmachines.com now Reply with quote

Now public.
http://www.buzzmachines.com/machineinfo.php?id=1018

And so it tonIO
http://www.buzzmachines.com/machineinfo.php?id=1020
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