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Vjesk Converted Sinner
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Caaernarfon, Wales
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 15:41 Post subject: Can anyone build a simple switcher? |
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Can anyone develope a simple line switcher. I don’t understand C++ and therefore I cant build one myself. But c’mon guys there’s someone on this forum that can build a line switcher. All i need is a single parameter with the choice of signal (A,B,C,D.....) so that i can switch through different fx chains from one generator.
Heres what i mean
Generator->-Switcher->-FX chain A ->- MASTER
---------------------->-FX chain B ->-MASTER
---------------------->-FX chain C ->-MASTER
Theres plenty of "line in" switchers but nobody has developed a "line out" switcher. Is this a physical impossibility, i heard somewhere that Buzz has been coded in such a way that makes this very difficult to develope. |
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intoxicat Archbishop
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Brighton , UK
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 15:50 Post subject: |
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how much are you paying
youi mean as single in - multi out machine. this should be easy using polac multi out - unfortunately I barely have enough time to finish my own machines off.. i might already have one of these so will have a look later. _________________ www.intoxicat.co.uk |
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flat Priest

Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 199
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Vjesk Converted Sinner
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Caaernarfon, Wales
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 16:10 Post subject: |
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Flat I’ve had a look at these topics before, but they don’t really answer my question. The way they’ve described the routing options is way too complicated (although I admit they are not complicated) what I mean the method they describe are way too complicated for what I want to achieve. I literally want one parameter with the choice of what line out I want to select.
Intoxicat if you’ve got one in your library of machines that would be wonderful. I’m sure you can help out one of your fellow countryman. (although I am welsh), ok let say your fellow islander.
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thOke Monk

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 433
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Vjesk Converted Sinner
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Caaernarfon, Wales
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 17:08 Post subject: |
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| Thoke you just made me look like an idiot. Never thought of that. But anyway due to my lack of brainpower id preffer the other way (because i want to be awkward!!!). But yes Thoke your right. Can you list the fx machines with this possibility? |
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thOke Monk

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 433
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 17:26 Post subject: |
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I already posted the links to two machines that do input-'switching'
with the answer above ...
You can also use one of the mixers to switch between several fx-chains. |
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intoxicat Archbishop
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Brighton , UK
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 17:52 Post subject: |
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thokes suggestion would work however it would use up more cpu as all the effect chains woudl be active at the same time... an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!!
and btw - dont lump me in with those ashes-dropping-thumb-sucking-loosers of the English. I am Swedish - only live in the uk.  _________________ www.intoxicat.co.uk |
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thOke Monk

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 433
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:07 Post subject: |
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| intoxicat wrote: | thokes suggestion would work however it would use up more cpu as all the effect chains woudl be active at the same time... an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!!
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Are really all effects active although you somehow 'cut' the connection
to the master with the switcher ?
... too lazy to test that right now  |
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Domtron Pope

Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 1080 Location: why?
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:12 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!! |
we love his light, fast machines and effects.don't we?  |
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wayfinder my afro is puffy what are you talking about

Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 1610 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:20 Post subject: |
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| Domtron wrote: | | Quote: | an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!! |
we love his light, fast machines and effects.don't we?  |
We even stopped writing "Kibubu"  _________________ wayfinder |
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Domtron Pope

Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 1080 Location: why?
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:25 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Are really all effects active although you somehow 'cut' the connection
to the master with the switcher ? |
what about writing in a vst effect, stereo/mono amp column=0000,on connection? |
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wayfinder my afro is puffy what are you talking about

Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 1610 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:33 Post subject: |
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Couldn't you just use a PeerState setup to selectively mute inputs to a machine? Or even the Master?
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/ FX A \
Chain - FX B -> Master
\ FX C /
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And then just make three states, and switch between them. _________________ wayfinder |
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thOke Monk

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 433
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 18:38 Post subject: |
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| wayfinder wrote: | Couldn't you just use a PeerState setup to selectively mute inputs to a machine? Or even the Master?
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Chain -> FX A -> Master
----- -> FX B -> Master
----- -> FX C -> Master
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And then just make three states, and switch between them. |
That's what i would do in those cases ... but i don't need a live-switcher and simply insert 'on'/'off'-patterns for the first effect in each chain in the sequencer. |
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mute Angel
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 3388
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 19:25 Post subject: |
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look into vst solutions like oli larkin's quadpan and quadmix.
http://www.oli.adbe.org/freeware.shtml
my personal favorites for this but definitely not the only ones i use.. |
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kibibu Pope

Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 1379 Location: Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Wednesday December 6th, 2006 23:58 Post subject: |
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| wayfinder wrote: | We even stopped writing "Kibubu"  |
aww thanks guys
i'll look into this again when I get a little more time (I know you guys hear this a lot from devs!)
edit: tox that multi-out rrouter code you pm'd me appears to do just this... _________________
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kibibu Pope

Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 1379 Location: Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Thursday December 7th, 2006 0:19 Post subject: |
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Can't you achieve this with d9's strip effect with its solo capability?
I.e.
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signal --->strip--->fx chain---+->master
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------>strip--->fx chain--- |
Solo the strip machine you want the signal to go through _________________
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intoxicat Archbishop
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Brighton , UK
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Posted: Thursday December 7th, 2006 9:07 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | edit: tox that multi-out rrouter code you pm'd me appears to do just this... |
ah you mean this: www.intoxicat.co.uk/rrouter.zip
edit: there is no interpolcation between the outputs and it is just a 'test' machine i made to figure outhow to use the polac multi out system. (v1) _________________ www.intoxicat.co.uk |
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IX Cardinal

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 906 Location: mcr:uk
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Posted: Thursday December 7th, 2006 13:40 Post subject: |
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| kibibu wrote: | Can't you achieve this with d9's strip effect with its solo capability?
I.e.
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signal --->strip--->fx chain---+->master
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------>strip--->fx chain--- |
Solo the strip machine you want the signal to go through |
That'll do it but you might want to reduce the gain inertia attribute to trim the fade in/out times down.
Hmmm. Could be a potential bug if the gain inertia is 0. I'll have to check that one!
Edit: Oops Pesky bugs! |
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Hamst3r Pope
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 1128 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thursday December 7th, 2006 20:44 Post subject: |
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start each FX chain with a Cheapo Amp.
use a BTDsys PeerState bound to the mute setting of those Cheapo Amps.
peerstate pattern 1: on, off, off...
peerstate pattern 2: off, on, off...
peerstate pattern 3: off, off, on...
...etc. _________________ - Hamst3r
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intoxicat Archbishop
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Brighton , UK
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Posted: Friday December 8th, 2006 10:14 Post subject: |
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or just use rrouter
if i get time this evening i will add inertia to it... _________________ www.intoxicat.co.uk |
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Lee_dC Priest
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 241
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Posted: Friday December 8th, 2006 14:38 Post subject: |
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| thOke wrote: | | intoxicat wrote: | thokes suggestion would work however it would use up more cpu as all the effect chains woudl be active at the same time... an output switcher might still be usefule - KIBIBU!!
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Are really all effects active although you somehow 'cut' the connection
to the master with the switcher ?
... too lazy to test that right now  |
you can remote control the input volumes of machines (from code, peer-style). if you turn it to 0, it mutes the signal and no CPU is consumed. i forgot how you do it exactly, but i did it in SpeedLoader originally, though i think i changed to a different method for the final thing.
i would use my MuteX machine for this kind of thing (well, if i'd finished it), along with a PeerState. |
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JoaCHIP Galileo Galilei

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 340
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Posted: Thursday January 4th, 2007 14:52 Post subject: Switcher |
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A dev guy i know wrote this plugin called fSwitch which does what i think you need (after not really reading carefully enough)- Take a bunch of signals.
- Connect them to fSwitch
- Connect the output to the master or something like that
DOWNLOAD
Thanks to my friend Nafai in Tokyo for this one.
Last edited by JoaCHIP on Saturday June 12th, 2010 13:13; edited 1 time in total |
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syphilissauna Altar Boy
Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Posts: 36 Location: pittsburgh
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Posted: Monday March 22nd, 2010 16:02 Post subject: |
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so i posted a question similar to this regarding Fswitch . (sending out a "+1" command from a midi controller so that i can switch between different effects chains ) and I guess the easiest answer is peerstate ? Ive never used that particular peer controller so will have to investigate .. _________________ current acctivties :
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Antonio All I get is a bunch of..
Joined: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 527
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Posted: Monday March 22nd, 2010 16:24 Post subject: |
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| syphilissauna wrote: | | so i posted a question similar to this regarding Fswitch . (sending out a "+1" command from a midi controller so that i can switch between different effects chains ) and I guess the easiest answer is peerstate ? Ive never used that particular peer controller so will have to investigate .. |
http://www.buzzmachines.com/machineinfo.php?id=1020
use this with fswitch |
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dj skullbuster Deacon
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 127
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Posted: Monday March 22nd, 2010 17:50 Post subject: Re: Switcher |
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| JoaCHIP wrote: | A dev guy i know wrote this plugin called fSwitch which does what i think you need (after not really reading carefully enough)- Take a bunch of signals.
- Connect them to fSwitch
- Connect the output to the master or something like that
DOWNLOAD
Thanks to my friend Nafai in Tokyo for this one. |
this link should work
DOWNLOAD |
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mcbpete Monk

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 408 Location: UK
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Posted: Monday March 22nd, 2010 18:28 Post subject: Re: Can anyone build a simple switcher? |
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| thOke wrote: | | Vjesk wrote: | | Can anyone develope a simple line switcher... |
Why not
Generator->-FX chain A >
----------->-FX chain B > Switcher-> MASTER
----------->-FX chain C >
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I was gonna suggest exactly that All I'd do is stick in a cheapo do-nothing and make different patterns with mutes on the chain I want off and a break on what I want switched on. Simple ! |
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JoaCHIP Galileo Galilei

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